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Machinarium => General Machinarium topics => Topic started by: XplorX on November 11, 2009, 03:43:15 pm



Title: Bug? 6 in a row
Post by: XplorX on November 11, 2009, 03:43:15 pm
I'm playing 5 in a row, and the computer just "beat me" with 6 in a row, but the game didn't stop. I attached a screenshot--the red arrow indicates the sixth bolt the program placed.

Sorry if this was mentioned in another topic--I looked and didn't find it. I have the unpatched game.


Title: Re: Bug? 6 in a row
Post by: ABoretz on November 11, 2009, 04:42:41 pm

Your screenshot shows the middle room already flooded.  Which means that you had already won at the 5 in a row game. 

Why in the world would you go back to play it again?!!   :o   :D



Title: Re: Bug? 6 in a row
Post by: XplorX on November 11, 2009, 06:05:28 pm
Why in the world would you go back to play it again?!!

Because...

1) I love wandering around in the world of Machinarium (and Samorost, too). To me, there's a strong sense of environment and beautiful artistry that goes beyond the idea of a game in Amanita projects. Fun!

2) I've gone back and replayed all the minigames many times. I poorly play those kinds of puzzles, so it's good practice and learning. The 5-in-a-row is pretty tough--I usually win once for every 7 or 8 games the program wins. Also, it's fun to re-play the "anti-virus" game and videogame #2, which is diabolically simple and clever.

Even so...doesn't it seem odd that the program didn't win with 6 in a row? I still have it running as shown in the screenshot. If you think you know how to beat it, you can tell me what moves to make and I'll see if the player can win after the program gets 6 in a row.


Title: Re: Bug? 6 in a row
Post by: Zjeraar on November 25, 2009, 12:48:00 am
I agree with the first poster. I had the same thing happening to me. The computer was about to win with 6 bolts in a row. But I got my chance and won in the next turn instead. It comes across as odd when one cannot win with 6 (or more) bolts or nuts. I think this deserves fixing, especially considering it shouldn't be that hard or timeconsuming to do. And patch02 is still in the making I assume.

How can one be certain this thread is picked up by (or at least brought to the attention of) the developers?


Title: Re: Bug? 6 in a row
Post by: ABoretz on November 25, 2009, 03:25:49 am
How can one be certain this thread is picked up by (or at least brought to the attention of) the developers?


Thanks out to both you and XplorX for pointing out the 6 in a row quirk*.  Be assured that JD and Oldes (key programmer) check the forum quite often and are paying special attention to posts regarding such "bugs".

You can read about recent examples of actual confirmed bugs that users have taken the time to point out here (http://machinarium.net/forum/index.php/topic,704.msg3474.html#msg3474), here (http://machinarium.net/forum/index.php/topic,688.msg3478.html#msg3478), and here (http://machinarium.net/forum/index.php/topic,709.msg3488.html#msg3488).

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* Personally, I like to think of a "quirks" as a "bugs" while they're still pupaes.  ;-)




Title: Re: Bug? 6 in a row
Post by: Zjeraar on November 25, 2009, 11:16:07 pm
Ok. Got a confirmation per mail that this glitch / bug will indeed be fixed.


Title: Re: Bug? 6 in a row
Post by: Zjeraar on December 02, 2009, 05:35:39 pm
Haven't checked if the 6-in-a-row bug is in patch02, but the 7-in-a-row bug is not.  ;D

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/46769359.png?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1259790980&Signature=Rpnp7AqE2wStCNGB5%2FJt1mPmMxI%3D)

Edit: Just checked that the 6-in-a-row bug isn't fixed either...
Edit: Trying to fix link to picture.


Title: Re: Bug? 6 in a row
Post by: ABoretz on December 03, 2009, 11:57:44 pm
Edit: Trying to fix link to picture.


I had a chance to see the picture briefly yesterday and then the link went bad.
Did you notice that there were precisely 5 sax keys and the other pieces filling out the "7-in-a-row bug" you captured were screws?

So this really is a strange bug!   :P

Could you fix that link to the picture of the 7-in-a-row anomaly, Zjeraar?
 


Title: Re: Bug? 6 in a row
Post by: Zjeraar on December 19, 2009, 11:53:47 pm
Well, for lack of an alternative, let me post a link to the page with the picture. Twitpic won't allow me to remote link images.

http://www.twitpic.com/rufgv/full (http://www.twitpic.com/rufgv/full)



If anyone knows a service (Not Flickr -- I don't like creating a Yahoo account) that will, let me know and I'll edit this post to show the image right away.

ModEdit: Embedded a low-rez version of your PNG file, Zjeraar, thanks!